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Miloandbono
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BX has a high yield and 2012 leaps. I may do this one.
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Miloandbono
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Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

none of the stocks on my screen have leaps.
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Miloandbono
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I was thinking about selling the Sept 25's and planned to lose the stock. I put this out there thinking someone might have a good reason I shouldn't do this.
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How does that work? You sell the April calls, but the dividend isn't paid until two weeks after they expire. Also, you would have to buy the calls back, at least at a small premium, or lose your stock...
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Miloandbono
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I'm looking at several high yield stocks like EVEP. I was thinking about buying the stock, then selling in the money calls. For example EVEP yields almost 10%. I was thinking about selling the 25 calls for $6.10, so I have downside protection to $25 (stock at $31.10. Any thoughts?
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Tychobrahe
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Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gap, You're right. A $10k I Bond that I bought in 10/01 is now worth $14,348, with an indicated interest rate of 6.11%

The 3.36% is the indicated rate for an I Bond purchased today.

(Message edited by tychobrahe on December 29, 2009)
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Gap
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Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ten year old ibonds should be paying over 6%.
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Tychobrahe
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Not exactly backwards, but not entirely accurate either. That's what I get for posting from memory. The 3.36% is right. The fixed is not .06 as I said, but 0.30. Add this to the annualized rate of inflation per the CPU-U of 3.06 and you get an earnings rate of 3.36%.

From the Treasury website:

I Bond Earnings Rate 3.36%, Fixed Rate 0.30%
The earnings rate for Series I Savings Bonds is a combination of a fixed rate, which applies for the life of the bond, and the semiannual inflation rate. The 3.36% earnings rate for I bonds bought from November 2009 through April 2010 will apply for their first six months after issue. The earnings rate combines a 0.30% fixed rate of return with the 3.06% annualized rate of inflation as measured by the Consumer Price Index for all Urban Consumers (CPI-U).
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Gap
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Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds backwards.
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Tychobrahe
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Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The I Bonds that I bought about 10 years ago are currently paying 3.36%, .06% fixed rate and 3.30% as an inflation rate based on the CPI-U.
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Miloandbono
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TMF - I think I misunderstood "EX" and "Record" date. It makes more sense now...

Please ignore previous post.
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Miloandbono
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$4 distribution - It looks like the ETF with ticker "TMF" is doing a $4.19 distribution.

The record date is 11/24, the ex date is 11/20, and the pay date is 11/30. The ETF is down about $4 today. It seems if I bought this today and it didn't go down more than $4 by the open on the 25th I'd make money. Does anyone see a flaw in my logic. I know these 3x funds are generally risky.

(Message edited by miloandbono on November 20, 2009)
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Miloandbono
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bought a little CPY near the open and I nearly have a $1 already. It's currently up 11.5% on the day. I don't dare buy more, it will go down for sure!
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Miloandbono
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CPY - CPI Corp. (CPY) %6 yield

Has anyone here looked at this stock? It was trading $1 a year ago, then they signed a 4 year deal with Sears and it traded up to $20 this summer. Also this summer Ramius Capital Group lost a proxy battle with them and started selling their 23% stake in the company. It looks as if they have sold all and now I wonder if this stock is a good value based being oversold by Ramius??

Any thoughts?
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Miloandbono
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Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Siv - I ended up putting some excess funds in 2 ETF's - IPE and TIP. They both do about 4% yield.

Starting to wonder if they are more risk than I wanted... they are each up over 1/2 percent....yahoo!!!
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Killernut
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think HTE is very misunderstood as far as Canroys go. I think the refinery purchase a couple years ago really threw a wrench into the works.

Most of the Canroys leverage via debt into older oil and gas properties and use the latest technology to wring the last out of these properties which lead to nice longer term payback with low risk/lower reward in lieu of quick hit new wells which carry high risk/high reward. Most Canroys properties thus carry a faily low reserve life to production ratio as the properties eventually deplete beyond economic recovery.

The refinery was/is totally different. A large one time payout via debt financing has put HTE's financials out of "whack" relative to other Canroys but what is missed is this is a 30 year "reserve" if you will.

That said I think HTE has had too many problems on the upstream side which has hurt its value as well. If I would have known the problems that they have had upstream side and/or the looming Canadian tax changes ahead of time HTE might have been an avoid or sell nearer to the top but given my crystal ball isn't working too well I still think HTE is a great divi play that should be held long term and that is just what I am doing.

Some of the other Canroys look good to me not only in the oil/gas sector (BTE in particular) as well but the REITs look outstanding if any kind of real estate bottom is eventually hit. I will wait to the end of the year and reassess those plays and see how beat up they get.
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Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks K/N. That makes me realize how little I know about this stuff. The only time I've heard "all in" before was in poker.

About the only thing I do understand is that they have HTE rated 'underperform' and a price target of $18.50. On that, I understand what they're saying, but I don't understand why. I suppose the 'why' is in the other data tables. I don't expect you to explain it, I'm just confessing that I'm blindly following you.
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Killernut
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Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good coverage of the Canadian trust sector.

http://www.bmonesbittburns.com/IA/IAHomepage/NewsToBrowser.asp?IA_ID=SMATTHEW&LA NGUAGE=EN&NEWS_ID=83&VERSION=124
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Public_heel
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KSE - not that good a return, as these things go. I got well over 25% on CONR recently. The thing to do is to go long when there is both a half-way decent return and sell out-of-the money calls when those are being bid...
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KSE is being bought for cash I think in July this year. $42.00 and there is at least on more .47ish dividend coming in April. Trading now around $41.10.

For anyone interested in a roughly 3% gain in 5 months. Actually CDs are paying better.

Just thought I would mention it.
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Cape_rover
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I picked up some FRO for a dividend trade and I like the technicals.
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Cmac
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Killernut -

Of the 40 Canroys listed in your link (4) offer a 1% or greater yield than PVX.

Advantage Energy is yielding 18.2%
APF Energy is yielding 15.7%
NAV Energy is yielding 23.1%
TKE Energy is yielding 15.6%
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Cmac
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Thanks KN. I'll take a look.
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Killernut
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Couldn't find the link I was looking for but did find this that compares various Canroys.

www3.telus.net/income/trust78.htm
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Cmac
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Of course,i see - thanks.

I kind of like the crosslisted stocks. Not sure why - maybe shows a higher level of sophistication. One other note re: PVX, they recorded an opportunity cost of $68.9 mm(Can) in their hedging program and are up front about it, leading me to believe that they may do better.

Will look to buy more on weakness and wait to see how the debt/equity exchange for the 10.5% notes affects price which closed May 30.
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Killernut
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Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, what I meant is that there are lots of other Canroys that are not available on the US markets (only thru the Toronto exchange) and because they are a bit harder for Americans to buy they have not been driven up as much resulting in higher yields on those stocks. Somewhere I have a link to a message board dedicated to Canroys I will look for it.
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Cmac
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Thanks KN -

I checked on purchasing through the TSE and don't see any advantage at first glance. Settled yesterday at 12.31 on TSE and 9.88 on AMEX. No apparent yield difference that i can discern - unless the 15% Canadian withholding doesn't apply if i purchased on the TSE. Is that what you are suggesting?
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Killernut
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Cmac, I think PVX is a decent holding.

The Canadian Royalty trusts are pretty good vehicles if you believe the price of Oil and Gas will not decline drastically in the years to come. You have picked up on the one nuance of the Canroys (the 15% tax withholding even in US tax advantaged accounts). Another one that I have not studied fully but have seen mentioned various places is that Canroys easily purchased in the US (via US exchanges) often have lower yields than those purhcased from say the Toronto exchange. The recommendation was that the trouble to buy on the Toronto exchange would be well worth it due to higher yields. YMMV.
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Hello All,

I have been looking for a good dividend stock for awhile for a portion of my IRA funds and recently purchased a 1/3 position in Provident Energy Trust (PVX).The yield is currently about 11% after current exchange rate and Canadian withholding (15% of the dividend for US citizens). PVX owns oil, gas, and gas processing facilities in Western Canada, CA, and WY.

It appears to have a reliable dividend stream and is in an industry that has a long-term upside in my view. Holders would also benefit from a stronger Can$ (or suffer if it weakens). I think that there is a good prospect of price appreciation too. On the other side i am not that knowledgable of the oil and gas industry, have never invested in an energy trust and am concerned that they recently offered debt holders an option to exchange for stock at about $9.00 (US). It currently is trading at $9.75.

I'd be interested in opinions/comments/discussion
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Jfh
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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Words of wisdom about income stocks:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ms/041110/119736_1.html
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Openhigher
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Hello all!

I have purchased the following dividend stocks in a family member's portfolio. VZ, GE, C, BLS, BMY, and BAC. The dividends and yields of each are respectable. Does anyone own these for income purposes and gradual growth, and can comment on fundamentals. I am a bit concerned about the scandals surrounding Citigroup of late.

Best, Robert
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Jfh
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A high dividend ? here's one:

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040712/telecoms_citizens_stocks_5.html

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Jfh
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some income producing stocks from the Fool, IF you are ready to ditch $149.00 :

http://www.fool.com/landing/newsletters/incomeinvestor.htm?logvisit=y&source=ept yholnk403200&source=iiiedilnk925380

(Message edited by jfh on June 18, 2004)
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Jfh
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more about dividend-paying stocks:

http://biz.yahoo.com/fool/040511/1084300080_1.html
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Jfh
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(Message edited by jfh on May 10, 2004)

(Message edited by jfh on May 10, 2004)
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Jfh
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T/S: does he at least lurk ?
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JFH, bully4u stopped in about six months ago. He said he had hired an investment professional to manage his account and he was doing quite well. I have no idea why he hasn't checked in to say hello.
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Jfh
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O.T. where's bully4u ?
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(Message edited by jfh on April 28, 2004)
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Jfh
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REITs and their yields, be careful:

http://biz.yahoo.com/cbsm/040416/2118e4e19a5c4791bca27f918b44658d_1.html
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More about REITs and their high yields ( Note: I own MLS mentioned in the article)

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/040407/property_reits_stocks_1.html
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Jfh
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REITs ????

http://biz.yahoo.com/fool/040405/1081190280_1.html
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Jfh
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A case for dividend stocks:

http://biz.yahoo.com/fo/040401/54ee09fdc7366032fd74756a14ef7cb6_1.html
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(Message edited by jfh on March 15, 2004)
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Jfh
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OFC 4.18% REIT
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Jfh
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AC 6.18% Investment Services

ETR 3.07% Electric Utility

LYO 5.30% Chemicals also Petroleum
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Jfh
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NLY 9.80% REIT

D 4.11% Electric Utility

FFBC 3.45% Reg. bk

MFA 10.42% REIT
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Jfh
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EQR 6.08% Real Estate operations

FRT 5.01% REIT
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Jfh
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EQY 6.49% REIT

LRY 6.44% REIT

SKYF 3.20% Regional Bk (Ohio)
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Just sold my CNL and TE. Made a little on CNL, broke even on TE. With all the signs I see of accelerating inflation and rising interest rates, I don't think I want to be in utilities any longer.
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Jfh
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I'm not alone, preaching in the desert:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/031219/b3864667_1.html
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upgraded late today:

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